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Το "ρητορικό" νετ - Αγγλικό άρθρο

Δημοσίευσηαπό ekfrasi » 13 Μαρ 2013, 11:52

"They are black boxes, not democracy"

Παραθέτω μερικά κομμάτια.
Είναι ενδιαφέρον το άρθρο άσχετα απο το Ιταλο-κεντρισμό του και την κριτική.

what does the Internet add? Well, it reduces communication costs. But leaders and hierarchies are needed to produce charisma and to, well, sound cohesive and credible when negotiating with other parties, then the Internet hasn't changed anything: charisma and discipline don't emerge from bytes. You know, someone has to counter the blog comments - they don't just go away on their own".



Το επόμενο θα μπορούσε να ειπωθεί και για την Ελλάδα
only small parts of the country (and the most wealthy ones) have access to free connections. Is this compatible with the aspiration to have a "digital direct democracy"?
"Well, one can't blame a political party for not being able to reach out to everyone. So I have no problem with someone trying these new methods now rather than in 15 years when everyone has connectivity. The real danger, of course, is if the administrative and electoral processes will be reshaped in such a way that participation in politics without access to digital technologies becomes impossible. I don't think it's going to happen any time soon, but this is definitely a possibility. With many digital projects in this civic and political space - especially in their early stages, there's this kind of dangerous self-selection bias: you organize important meetings to decide on the rules of procedure and then only the geeks show up. Of course, if it's only the geeks who shape the early rules, then I'd be very worried about what such platforms and efforts can deliver".


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As a way to run focus groups inside the party, such a system can be quite useful. Real risks and dangers occur when such platforms are pitched as the new way of doing politics - perhaps, of having citizens delegate their votes to other citizens on issues that they know little about.

some of these aspirations were already present in the early 1960s - at least in the US, with the rise of RAND Corporation - when a lot of technocratic political consultants thought that, through telephones and cable television, citizens would be able to delegate their votes to more knowledgeable colleagues. As I already pointed out, such views usually start on the assumption that communication costs is the problem that needs to be solved and they look onto new technologies as the savior. If, however, you don't think that the reason why politics operates the way it does is a factor of communication constraints, then, of course, your view of what technology can do will be much more down-to-earth.


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One of the charms of the old and badly ineffective media system - where a party had to craft a universal message that they marketed to everyone who would listen - was that it forced politicians to take their own ideology seriously. They had to sound coherent, to make sure their positions don't fall apart. In a world where no one can eavesdrop on the personalized messages politicians send to individual voters, there's no need to be consistent or think hard about ideology. This is what's so dangerous about micro-targetting and big data".


και παίρνει μια θέση που δε νομίζω θα συμφωνούσαν πολλοί πειρατές, αλλά έχει point.

There are good reasons why you want to have hierarchies and leaders and talk the language of politics and play the whole game - the inefficiency of politics, to use computer language, is not a bug but a feature. To me the test is simple: forget for a moment that we are living through a "digital revolution" - much of this is hype and self-serving claims by Internet companies who want to avoid regulation - and try to engage the arguments made by the likes of 5SM based on what we know from political philosophy and political theory. Those arguments, I suspect, won't last an hour of serious discussion in a rigorous undergraduate seminar on Politics 101. The only reason why they pass as serious is because they are clothed in the emancipatory rhetoric of the digital sublime

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"As for world leaders, well, there are plenty of fringe parties on the rise elsewhere in Europe: in the Netherlands, in the UK, possibly, once again, in Greece. Those haven't been as good at tapping the rhetoric of the Internet - they are not led by bloggers, perhaps - but they will eventually figure it out.
και δίνει το εύστοχο παράδειγμα του Nigel Farage.

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